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[CF-metadata] Ancillary variables in coordinate variables (latitude, longitude, ...)

From: Kristian Sebastián <ksebastian>
Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 08:59:46 +0200

Sorry Jonathan, I misunderstood you. Thanks for your explanation and clear
up my question.

Best regards Jonathan and Jim,

Kristian



On 6 May 2015 at 20:08, Jim Biard <jbiard at cicsnc.org> wrote:

> I'm in agreement with Jonathan!
>
>
> On 5/6/15 1:09 PM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
>
> Dear Kristian
>
>
> In these case the feature type is a trajectory, so
> the latitude and longitude are auxiliary coordinates.
>
> You said that for auxiliary coordinates it could be ok, Would this mean
> that it could be added to the CF conventions?
>
> I don't think any change would be needed to the CF convention. CF allows a
> given netCDF variable to serve as both a data variable in its own right and
> an aux coord var of another data variable. An example of where this might be
> useful is for an ocean model on density levels, in which depth as a function
> of density is of interest as a data variable, but could also be an auxiliary
> coordinate variable for other data variables. Therefore I think it would be
> legal for your aux coord vars to have ancillary vars. Since the lat and lon
> along a trajectory are actually dependent data variables, this feels quite
> reasonable to me for your case. I wonder what others think.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On 5 May 2015 at 18:58, Jonathan Gregory <j.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk> <j.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Kristian
>
> Ancillary variables are only for data variables in the current convention.
> It wouldn't be illegal to use the attribute on coord variables, but CF
> doesn't define what that would mean. (CF always permits any
> non-standardised
> attributes.)
>
> I wonder whether these are 1D coord variables (in the Unidata sense) or
> aux coord vars (named by the coordinates attribute)? In the latter case, it
> could be OK, because other data variables could be named as aux coord vars.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Kristian Sebasti??n <ksebastian at socib.es> <ksebastian at socib.es>
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>
> Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 08:43:54 +0200
> From: Kristian Sebasti??n <ksebastian at socib.es> <ksebastian at socib.es>
> To: cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu
> Subject: [CF-metadata] Ancillary variables in coordinate variables
>
> (latitude,
>
> longitude, ...)
>
> Dear CF community,
>
> We have some dataset with quality controls applied to the coordinate
> variables, such as latitude and longitude coordinate. The result are
> quality control variables that we associate as ancillary variables of the
> coordinate variables with the ancillary_variables attribute. For example,
> the LAT coordinate variable has the ancillary variable QC_LAT. The
>
> dataset
>
> http://thredds.socib.es/thredds/dodsC/drifter/surface_drifter/drifter_svp052-ime_svp017/L1/2014/dep0001_drifter-svp052_ime-svp017_L1_2014-05-25.nc
>
> The cf-conventions clarifies the use of the ancillary_variables attribute
> for data variables but not for coordinate variables. My question is, Is
>
> the
>
> ancillary_variables attribute in coordinates variables compliant with the
> cf-conventions?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Kristian
>
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