Hi Dom
Actually, I think we really want:
http://cfconventions.org/something
(We own cfconventions.org, so we can point it where we want!)
And I would like in 2011 to have settled on a permanent answer to that
question!
Cheers
Bryan
> Thanks all,
>
> Interesting to see the new MMI ontology work.
> I take from this discussion then that there is not currently a CF
> 'blessed' method to reference a term?
>
> E.g. for air_temperature I can choose from any of these:
>
> http://mmisw.org/ont/cf/parameter/air_temperature
> http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/term/P071/16/CFSN0023
> http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name-ta
> ble/16/cf-standard-name-table.html#air_temperature plus:
> http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name-ta
> ble/16/cf-standard-name-table.xml
>
>
> Cheers,
> Dom
>
> On 14/12/10 08:18, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Working to find a way of harmonising the two sources of web-served
> > Standard Names is on by ?To-Do? list for next year (part of an
> > issue list fed into the NETMAR project by John G.)
> >
> > Cheers, Roy.
> >
> > *From:* cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu
> > [mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *John
> > Graybeal *Sent:* 13 December 2010 22:28
> > *To:* Benno Blumenthal
> > *Cc:* cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu
> > *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?
> >
> > A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things:
> >
> > Benno, all,
> >
> > On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumenthal wrote:
> > We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the
> > effort bogged down.
> >
> > As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at
> >
> > http://marinemetadata.org/cf
> >
> > but has not been keeping up to date.
> >
> > Thanks for the mention. This is our older URL, sorry; we are now
> > maintaining CF standard names in our ontology repository, using
> > resolvable URLs. [1]
> >
> > There was a period when MMI was not keeping up to date with CF
> > changes, but in the recent past we have been continuously updating
> > the SKOS ontology for the parameter names at the site Carlos
> > mentioned [1] (We will forward the misleading /cf URL above, or
> > fix it to make clear in some other way the current status; thanks
> > for calling that out.)
> >
> > As with Roy's handling, we provide URLs both for the current
> > version at the reference URL, and for individual releases of the
> > vocabulary.
> >
> > John
> >
> > [1] http://mmisw.org/ont/cf/parameter
> >
> >
> >
> > I have written a XSL transform at
> >
> > http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/ontologies/xslt/.cfsn2rdf.xsl
> >
> > that can be applied to
> >
> > http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name-
> > table/16/cf-standard-name-table.xml
> >
> > to generate an up-to-date version, e.g.
> >
> > xsltproc
> > http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/ontologies/xslt/.cfsn2rdf.xsl
> > http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name
> > -table/16/cf-standard-name-table.xml
> >
> > On the other hand, Roy has created opaque URIs for standard names
> > at
> >
> > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P07/9 contains all the Standard
> > Names that have ever been published, including names that have
> > been aliased
> >
> > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P071/9 contains the Standard Names
> > that are currently valid (i.e. those that have not been deprecated
> > through aliasing)
> >
> > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P072/9 contains the Standard Names
> > that have been deprecated through aliasing
> >
> > The mapping between deprecates and their replacement aliases my be
> > obtained through the following API call
> >
> > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/axis2/services/vocab/getMap?subjectList
> > =http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P072/current&predicate=255&object
> > List=http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P071/current&inference=false
> > <http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/axis2/services/vocab/getMap?subjectLi
> > st=http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P072/current&predicate=255&obje
> > ctList=http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P071/current&inference=fals
> > e>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > he changes them with each version, so it is both more definitive
> > and harder to use. It is also pure SKOS, so one needs to add
> > structure to actually connect it with a CF-described dataset. I
> > plan to write out a map between the two, so that I can use his
> > relationships between CF standard_names, but I do not have it yet.
> >
> > Additional information and ontologies describing the CF structure
> > both as attributes and conceptually are available at
> > http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/ontologies/, including the
> > connections between the standard_name ontologies and the CF
> > structure.
> >
> >
> >
> > Benno
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Dominic Lowe
> > <dominic.lowe at stfc.ac.uk
> >
> > <mailto:dominic.lowe at stfc.ac.uk>> wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > What's the current CF recommended scheme for referencing a
> > > standard
> >
> > name on
> >
> > > the web? (either by URL or URN).
> > >
> > > I know about the vocab server and the xml/html online versions
> > > and could choose to use URLs to point to items in any of these
> > > but is there a definitive pattern that should be used? (or at
> > > least a best practice that should be encouraged?).
> > >
> > > Much appreciated,
> > >
> > > Dominic
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> >
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> >
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