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[CF-metadata] No standard names for element concentrations in sediment?

From: Daniel Neumann <daniel.neumann>
Date: Thu, 17 May 2018 20:58:17 +0200

Great :-) . Then I would like to propose the following two new standard
names:



moles_of_nitrogen_per_unit_area_in_seabed_sediment


unit: mol/m2


description: moles_of_X_per_unit_area_in_Y describes the amount of X in
a column with unity base area of material/compartment Y. 'Sediment'
means particulate matter bound at the sea floor. Information on the
location of the interface between water column and sediment can be
provided via the comment attribute.



and



moles_of_silicate_expressed_as_silicon_per_unit_area_in_seabed_sediment


unit: mol/m2


description: moles_of_X_per_unit_area_in_Y describes the amount of X in
a column with unity base area of material/compartment Y. 'Sediment'
means particulate matter bound at the sea floor. Information on the
location of the interface between water column and sediment can be
provided via the comment attribute.



Cheers,

Daniel



On 17.05.2018 16:00, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
>
> That works for me.
>
>
> Cheers, Roy.
>
>
>
> I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active through an
> Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address.
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> *From:* CF-metadata <cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of
> Daniel Neumann <daniel.neumann at io-warnemuende.de>
> *Sent:* 17 May 2018 10:41
> *To:* CF Metadata Mail List
> *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element
> concentrations in sediment?
> Dear Roy, Dear Jonathan,
>
> Thank you for the feedback. I see? that sediment might be ambiguous.
> Would "seabed sediment" or "marine seabed sediment" be an acceptable
> alternative?
>
> ? moles_of_nitrogen_per_unit_area_in_seabed_sediment
>
> This would clarify that the sea floor is meant as location of the
> sediment. It would also clarify that not bare rock is meant.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
>
>
> On 16.05.2018 11:42, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Daniel,
>>
>> Couple of additional thoughts that struck me. Is there possibility of
>> confusion between seafloor sediment and suspended sediment? What if
>> the seabed was bare rock?? So, might:
>>
>> moles_of_nitrogen_per_unit_area_in_seabed
>>
>> be better?
>>
>> Let?s see if we get any other thoughts on the list.
>>
>> Cheers, Roy.
>>
>> *From:*CF-metadata <cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Neumann
>> *Sent:* 16 May 2018 09:28
>> *To:* CF Metadata Mail List <cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu>
>> <mailto:cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] No standard names for element
>> concentrations in sediment?
>>
>> Dear Roy,
>>
>> > I think benthos chemistry is virgin territory for CF - not really
>> surprising for a standard that started in the atmosphere before
>> dipping its toes in the ocean.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> > I'm presuming your coming from a modelling perspective,
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> In our current model setup (ecosystem model of the water column) we
>> have a fairly simple sediment and write out the nitrogen amount per m2.
>>
>> This name might be appropriate for this purpose:
>> moles_of_nitrogen_per_unit_area_in_sediment
>>
>> unit:
>> mol/m2
>>
>> description:
>> moles_of_X_per_unit_area_in_Y describes the amount of X in a column
>> with unity base area of material/compartment Y. 'Sediment' means
>> particulate matter bound at the sea floor. Information on the
>> location of the interface between water column and sediment can be
>> provided via the comment attribute.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 15.05.2018 18:30, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
>>
>> Dear Daniel,
>>
>> I think benthos chemistry is virgin territory for CF - not really
>> surprising for a standard that started in the atmosphere before
>> dipping its toes in the ocean.
>>
>> Some thoughts based on my experience?with observed sediment
>> chemistry data. The data may be reported? per unit mass of wet or
>> dry sediment or?per unit volume of wet sediment. Also it is worth
>> making clear that 'sediment' means sediment of all grain sizes
>> (say a phrase like 'total_sediment')?as samples are frequently
>> sieved prior to analysis.
>>
>> I'm presuming your coming from a modelling perspective, so I'm
>> not totally clear about your needs, but would something like
>> 'mole_concentration_of_nitrogen_in_wet_total_sediment' be what
>> you would be looking for?
>>
>> Cheers, Roy.
>>
>> I am retiring on 31/05/2018 but will continue to be active
>> through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address.
>>
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>> *From:*CF-metadata <cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of Daniel
>> Neumann <daniel.neumann at io-warnemuende.de>
>> <mailto:daniel.neumann at io-warnemuende.de>
>> *Sent:* 15 May 2018 16:51
>> *To:* CF Metadata Mail List
>> *Subject:* [CF-metadata] No standard names for element
>> concentrations in sediment?
>>
>> Dear CF Mailing List,
>>
>> I am looking for standard names to describe the mole
>> concentration of
>> nitrogen in the sediment. The CF standard name table does not
>> contain
>> any standard names regarding "mole_concentration" in "sediment".
>> I was
>> wondering whether another term than "sediment" was used for such
>> names.
>> I also tried "mud", "seabed", and "sea_bed". Or do no such standard
>> names exist at all?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
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