---- Seth McGinnis NARCCAP Data Manager Associate Scientist III RISC / IMAGe / NCAR ---- On 8/29/14 6:19 AM, Hollis, Dan wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is the third in a series of questions relating to our work on > converting gridded UK observations data to NetCDF? > > As many of you will know, climatological observations made in the UK > have traditionally been gathered at 0900 GMT. These include maximum > temperature, minimum temperature and precipitation amount. > > We follow the guidance given in the WMO Guide to Climatological > Practices which states: > > "Precipitation amounts and maximum temperatures noted at an early > morning observation should be credited to the previous calendar day" (p2-13) > > The implication is that minimum temperatures should be credited to the > calendar day of the observation. This all makes sense as the max will > typically occur mid-afternoon whereas the min will generally occur > around dawn. > > So, for an arbitrary calendar day (e.g. 13 August 2013) the cell bounds > would be: > > Minimum temperature: 2013-08-12 09:00, 2013-08-13 09:00 (cell_method: > minimum) > Max temp and precip: 2013-08-13 09:00, 2013-08-14 09:00 (cell_method: > maximum and sum respectively) > > We also follow the WMO guidance regarding the calculation of daily mean > temperatures: > > "the recommended methodology for calculating average daily temperature > is to take the mean of the daily maximum and minimum temperatures" (p4-18) > > The problem we have is how to describe the daily mean temperature, given > that it is the mean of values from two different 24-hour periods. > > One possibility is to simply interpret it as an estimate of the true > mean temperature for the calendar day in question, and thus specify the > bounds as midnight-midnight i.e. > > 2013-08-13 00:00, 2013-08-14 00:00 (cell_method: mean) > > For consistency we propose specifying the value of the time coordinate > to be the same for all variables i.e. 2013-08-13 09:00 (which is 09:00 > on the calendar day to which the observations are credited - it is the > end point of the minimum temperature bounds, the start point of the > maximum temperature bounds, and part way through the proposed mean > temperature bounds). > > One colleague wondered whether it would be better (less confusing to the > user) to consider all of the values to be estimates for the calendar day > and therefore give all of the variables (max, min, mean and precip) the > same midnight-to-midnight bounds (even though the actual observation > period is different to this). > > If anyone else has had to tackle this type of issue I would be very > interested to know what approach you followed. Alternatively if anyone > can give advice on how to correctly describe a mean value calculated in > the way I have described that would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Dan > > PS We will also need to store monthly means and climatological averages > of all these variables. I thought I'd start by asking about the daily > quantities and see where the discussion led... > > > > Dan Hollis Climatologist > *Met Office* Hadley Centre FitzRoy Road Exeter Devon EX1 3PB > United Kingdom > Tel: +44 (0)1392 886780 Fax: +44 (0)1392 885681 > E-mail: dan.hollis at metoffice.gov.uk Website: _http://www.metoffice.gov.uk_ > For UK climate and past weather information, visit > _http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate_ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CF-metadata mailing list > CF-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu > http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata >Received on Fri Aug 29 2014 - 12:53:27 BST
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