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[CF-metadata] [CF Metadata] #74: Allow sharing of ancillary variables among multiple data variables

From: rhorne at excaliburlabs.com <rhorne>
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:06:41 -0400

Jonathan:
when you say:
You could describe a standard error with a `cell_methods` entry of
`measurement: standard_deviation`, for instance, if we add `measurement`
to the standard name table, meaning the ordinal number of a measurement
of a given quantity. There does not have to a measurement dimension; using
a standard name in `cell_methods` implies that the statistic applies to
the complete range of the quantity named i.e. all possible measurements
in this case.
Can you provide an example just to make sure I understand ?
 very respectfully,
 randy

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From: "Jonathan Gregory" <j.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [CF Metadata] #74: Allow sharing of ancillary variables among
multiple data variables

#74: Allow sharing of ancillary variables among multiple data variables
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  Reporter: rhorne at excaliburlabs.com | Owner:
cf-conventions at lists.llnl.gov
      Type: enhancement | Status: new
                      
  Priority: medium | Milestone:
                      
 Component: cf-conventions | Version:
                      
Resolution: | Keywords: "ancillary data"
"standard name modifiers"
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Comment (by jonathan):

 Dear all

 I tend to think, partly as a result of discussion in another ticket, that

 we should adopt a different solution for `number_of_observations` and
 `status_flag` on the one hand, and `standard_error` and
 `detection_minimum` on the other. Thus we could get rid of standard name
 modifiers, as Nan says; they are awkward and have caused confusion.

 As Randy says, the former two modifiers could become standard names for
 dimensionless quantities. As Nan says, this can't be done for the latter
 two, because they have units. Instead, I think we should put the
 information into `cell_methods`. It is possible to regard standard error
 and detection minimum as particular statistics in an ensemble of possible

 measurements of the same quantity, I would argue. If so, `cell_methods` is

 a natural place to put them, under an entry which applies to a notional
 dimension that runs over the members of this population. You could
 describe a standard error with a `cell_methods` entry of `measurement:
 standard_deviation`, for instance, if we add `measurement` to the standard

 name table, meaning the ordinal number of a measurement of a given
 quantity. There does not have to a measurement dimension; using a standard

 name in `cell_methods` implies that the statistic applies to the complete

 range of the quantity named i.e. all possible measurements in this case.
 Does this make sense to you?

 A nice consequence is that this would simplify the convention, because
 only the standard name and cell methods would determine the canonical
 units of the quantity. At the moment, the standard name modifier has to be

 considered as well.

 Cheers

 Jonathan

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