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[CF-metadata] udunits handling of fuzzy time units

From: Jon Blower <j.d.blower>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:14:59 +0000

I think it's good to remove the dependence on UDUNITS from the CDM for date handling.

However, although "date" is not a unit of measure, "seconds" is, and so is "month" in the definition of UDUNITS. Since CF defines that we use the UDUNITS interpretation of month/year, it would seem dangerous to change this assumption for backward compatibility?

(It's not just that months are of variable lengths within a year, but also that there are different definitions of a "month". UDUNITS uses a fixed year-length (not a calendar year length) and a month is year/12.)

BTW, the various calendars are implemented in ncWMS at http://www.resc.rdg.ac.uk/trac/ncWMS/browser/trunk/src/java/uk/ac/rdg/resc/edal/time.

I even wrote half-decent unit tests - aren't I a good boy? ;-)

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of John Caron
Sent: 15 March 2011 13:02
To: cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] udunits handling of fuzzy time units

On 3/15/2011 5:03 AM, Karl Taylor wrote:
> I agree with Jon.
>
> By definition, I think, a "unit of measure" must not vary; hence month
> is not a proper unit and not only depends on month of year, but also
> on assumed calendar (and similarly for year). Therefore, I think
> "months since" and "years since" should not be allowed in CF.
>
> Karl

Hi Karl:

so if currently we cant actually use months and years, because of the
way udunits handles them, why not redefine how they should be understood
when you do use them, namely as setting the month or year field in a
date calculation.

this eases the burden on data writers, and makes the metadata human
readable, at the cost of a small increase in the complexity of libraries
that read data.

one more comment: a date is not a unit of measure, and therein lies all
the trouble. IMO, date handling should be removed from the udunits
package, which is what im doing now in the CDM (not removing date
handling from udunits, just not using udunits anymore to handle dates).

John
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