Dear All,
There are three names that remain to be added to the standard name table from this thread that was discussed some time ago. They were delayed due to questions (now resolved) regarding their definitions. The following three names are accepted for inclusion in the standard name table:
mass_concentration_of_inorganic_nitrogen_in_sea_water; kg m-3
mass_concentration_of_flagellates_expressed_as_nitrogen_in_sea_water; kg m-3
mass_concentration_of_flagellates_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water; kg m-3.
All the names in this thread have now been accepted.
Best wishes,
Alison
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: olivier lauret [mailto:olauret at cls.fr]
> Sent: 03 June 2009 17:48
> To: christiane.textor at lsce.ipsl.fr; Pamment, JA (Alison)
> Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Proposal for additionalCFbiogeochemistry
> attributes
>
> Thank you Christiane and Alison!
>
> About 'inorganic nitrogen', I am going to check with B. Hackett if he
> wants to clarify it definition with species like you suggested. I'll
> keep you informed.
>
> Cheers
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De?: Christiane.Textor at lsce.ipsl.fr
> [mailto:Christiane.Textor at lsce.ipsl.fr]
> Envoy??: mercredi 3 juin 2009 17:47
> ??: Pamment, JA (Alison); olivier lauret
> Objet?: Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for additionalCFbiogeochemistry
> attributes
>
> Thanks to both of you :)
>
> Pamment, JA (Alison) a ?crit :
> > Dear Olivier and Christiane,
> >
> > Sorry for not commenting on this earlier. Christiane is correct that
> the 'expressed_as' needs to go with the species. This is something
> that
> was discussed and agreed recently in one of the atmospheric chemistry
> threads. Aliases will be created for the existing names to change the
> order of the terms, so for example,
> mole_concentration_of_mesozooplankton_in_sea_water_expressed_as_nitroge
> n
> will become
> mole_concentration_of_mesozooplankton_expressed_as_nitrogen_in_sea_wate
> r.
> The names proposed for biogeochemistry should follow the same order.
> With this change, I think all the names proposed in this thread can now
> be
> accepted:
> >
> > mass_concentration_of_inorganic_nitrogen_in_sea_water; kg m-3
> > mass_concentration_of_phosphate_in_sea_water; kg m-3
> > mole_concentration_of_phosphate_in_sea_water; mol m-3
> > mass_concentration_of_silicate_in_sea_water; kg m-3
> >
> mass_concentration_of_organic_detritus_expressed_as_nitrogen_in_sea_wat
> er;
> kg m-3
> >
> mass_concentration_of_organic_detritus_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water
> ;
> kg m-3
> > mass_concentration_of_diatoms_expressed_as_nitrogen_in_sea_water; kg
> m-3
> mass_concentration_of_diatoms_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water; kg m-3
> mass_concentration_of_flagellates_expressed_as_nitrogen_in_sea_water;
> kg
> m-3
> > mass_concentration_of_flagellates_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water;
> kg
> m-3
> > volume_fraction_of_oxygen_in_sea_water; l
> > mole_ratio_of_nitrate_to_phosphate_in_sea_water; 1
> >
> mass_concentration_of_phytoplankton_expressed_as_chlorophyll_in_sea_wat
> er;
> kg m-3
> >
> > I had to look up what a 'flagellate' is in marine biology - will the
> following description be suitable for use in the standard name
> definitions, or can anyone suggest a (reasonably concise) alternative:
> > "Flagellates" are a class of single celled organisms that use a
> flagellum (whip-like structure) for feeding and locomotion. Some
> flagellates can photosynthesize and others feed on bacteria, with a few
> flagellates capable of both."
> >
> > Is there a particular list of chemical species included in 'inorganic
> nitrogen' or is this something that will vary from one model to
> another?
> >
> > If we can sort out these definitions then the names can be included
> in
> the next update to the standard name table.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Alison
> >
> > ------
> > Alison Pamment Tel: +44 1235 778065
> > NCAS/British Atmospheric Data Centre Fax: +44 1235 446314
> > Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Email:
> alison.pamment at stfc.ac.uk
> Chilton, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-
> >> bounces at cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of olivier lauret
> >> Sent: 02 June 2009 17:01
> >> To: christiane.textor at lsce.ipsl.fr; CF-metadata email list
> >> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for additionalCFbiogeochemistry
> attributes
> >> Hi Christiane,
> >> You must be right. In that case I have another problem, because
> existing standard names are build like this:
> >> mole_concentration_of_diatoms_in_sea_water_expressed_as_nitrogen
> That's
> the reason why we suggested the names in that way..
> >> What should we do? Should we keep "expressed_as_X" at the end, like
> it
> is? Because on the other hand we would be obliged to change several
> existing standard names?
> >> Cheers
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-
> >> bounces at cgd.ucar.edu] De la part de Christiane Textor
> >> Envoy? : mardi 26 mai 2009 10:37
> >> ? : CF-metadata email list
> >> Objet : Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for additional CFbiogeochemistry
> attributes
> >> Dear Olivier ,
> >> I have one short remark concerning the "expressed_as_X" names: The
> expressed_as_X should be next to the species, e.g.:
> >>
> mass_concentration_of_organic_detritus_expressed_as_nitrogen_in_sea_wat
> er
> >> and not
> >>
> mass_concentration_of_organic_detritus_in_sea_water_expressed_as_nitrog
> en
> >> Cheers,
> >> Christiane
> >> olivier lauret a ?crit :
> >>> Dear all,
> >>> Thank you Philip. What I understood is that everybody finally
> agrees
> >> on
> >>> introducing a concept like mole_ratio_of_X_to_Y_in_medium.
> >>> And in that case the standard name we are looking for would be:
> 'mole_ratio_of_nitrate_to_phosphate_in_sea_water'.
> >>> It sounds good.
> >>> Synthesizing the iterations we had together, this leads us to make
> >> the
> >>> following addition proposal to CF Metadata:
> >>> mass_concentration_of_inorganic_nitrogen_in_sea_water
> >>> kg m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>> mass_concentration_of_phosphate_in_sea_water
> >>> kg m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>> mole_concentration_of_phosphate_in_sea_water
> >>> mol m-3
> >>> umol/l
> >>> mass_concentration_of_silicate_in_sea_water
> >>> kg m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>
> mass_concentration_of_organic_detritus_in_sea_water_expressed_as_nitrog
> en
> >>> kg m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>
> mass_concentration_of_organic_detritus_in_sea_water_expressed_as_carbon
> >>> kg m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>> mass_concentration_of_diatoms_in_sea_water_expressed_as_nitrogen kg
> m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>> mass_concentration_of_diatoms_in_sea_water_expressed_as_carbon kg
> m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>>
> mass_concentration_of_flagellates_in_sea_water_expressed_as_nitrogen
> kg m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>> mass_concentration_of_flagellates_in_sea_water_expressed_as_carbon
> kg m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>> volume_fraction_of_oxygen_in_sea_water
> >>> l l-1
> >>> ml/l
> >>> mole_ratio_of_nitrate_to_phosphate_in_sea_water
> >>> 1
> >>> 1
> >>
> mass_concentration_of_phytoplankton_in_sea_water_expressed_as_chlorophy
> ll
> >>> kg m-3
> >>> ug/l
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>> Best wishes
> >>> Olivier.
> >>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>> De : Philip Cameronsmith [mailto:cameronsmith1 at llnl.gov]
> >>> Envoy? : jeudi 14 mai 2009 19:42
> >>> ? : Bruce Hackett
> >>> Cc : Jonathan Gregory; olivier lauret; cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu;
> Laurence Crosnier; Thomas LOUBRIEU; Yann BARZIC
> >>> Objet : Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for additional CF
> biogeochemistry
> attributes
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> To help bring this to a conclusion, let me reiterate and say that
> mole_ratio_of_X_to_Y_in_medium is acceptable to me.
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>> Philip
> >>> On Thu, 14 May 2009, Bruce Hackett wrote:
> >>> > Dear all,
> >>> > I don't have vote here, but if you're going for a new prefix,
> then
> >>> "mole_ratio_" sounds better
> >>> > to me.
> >>> > Cheers, Bruce
> >>> >
> >>> > Jonathan Gregory wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Dear Philip
> >>> >
> >>> > I would be happy with
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > mole_ratio_of_X_to_Y_in_medium
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > i.e. the same as what I suggested, without "mixing". I think
> that
> >>> mole_ratio
> >>> > is better than mole_fraction. I don't think it sounds right to
> say
> >>> "fraction
> >>> > of X to Y"; don't we normally say "ratio of X to Y"?
> >>> >
> >>> > Best wishes
> >>> >
> >>> > Jonathan
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> >> ------
> >>> > Bruce Hackett Senior Scientist
> >>> > Norwegian Meteorological Institute (met.no), R & D Div.
> >>> > P.O. Box 43 - Blindern e-mail:
> >> Bruce.Hackett at met.no
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> >>> > URL: http://
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> >>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> --
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> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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