Hello again Jonathan and all,
On May 21, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
>> each of these seems to be referring to only this particular entity
>> (sea_water_pH) as having the characteristic.
> I'm sorry, I don't understand that remark.
I was just trying to say that the 'total scale' refers conceptually to
the chemical model of the medium also, not *just* the pH. (A very fine
hair indeed.) So in my amateur mind it ('total_scale') does modify
the whole bit. (Hence I liked 'total_scale_pH_of_sea_water', because
it doesn't preclude the understanding I express above.)
But one of my experts has returned and, presented with all the latest
options and a few others besides, saved us from further analysis by
preferring your earlier suggestion:
sea_water_pH_reported_on_total_scale
as the best of the compromise options. (Alternatively, since total
scale only makes sense in sea water measurements of pH, you could say
pH_reported_on_total_scale
to collocate all the pH names. But as I recall that is not a
motivation for you, and the longer one provides better context I'd say.)
Let me know if this (sea_water_pH_reported_on_total_scale) has, or has
not, gotten us to potential closure. Thanks,
John
On May 21, 2009, at 12:12 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
> Dear John
>
>> I'll mention as a nit that they don't quite capture the
>> essence. While the fundamental construct is the basic chemistry of
>> the system, each of these seems to be referring to only this
>> particular entity (sea_water_pH) as having the characteristic.
>
> I'm sorry, I don't understand that remark.
>
>> I guess I'll just
>> ask how much you think the extra words add value.
>
> All existing standard names are phrases with sufficient English glue
> so you
> can work out how to parse them. For me
>> sea_water_pH_total_scale
> is not ideal because it doesn't indicate what "total scale" refers
> to. Perhaps
> your remark above indicates I still haven't understood what it
> *does* refer to,
> unfortunately.
>
> What about
> total_scale_pH_of_sea_water
> Would that be better? That indicate that "total scale pH" is a
> quantity
> which is being measured in sea water. The "total scale" refers to
> "pH".
>
> Cheers
>
> Jonathan
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