Hi all,
ECMWF produces hindcasts as part of our operational system. These 
hindcasts refer to a specific forecast run. For example, today's 
forecast has associated a set of hindcasts. Tomorrow's forecast will 
have a different set. So our hindcasts have 2 dates:
- the base date of the hindcast run (we call it DATE)
- the base date of the forecast they refer to (we call it REFDATE)
We have discovered that such naming convention was a mistake, because it 
requires REFDATE to have the same treatment as DATE. We plan to migrate 
to the following terms:
DATE=base date of the forecast they refer to
HINDCASTDATE=base date of the hindcast run
This way, HINDCASTDATE doesn't need to be treated as a DATE, it can just 
be yet another attribute.
Hope this is clear and useful.
Manuel
Gross, Tom wrote:
> If we wanted to contain in a single file the results of a model run from 
> the past, through the present and into the future, I would use a single 
> variable, "time" to give the time coordinate to all time slices, valid 
> times.  Presumably the application wants to use all of these as one 
> continuous run, or they would have been split into different files.  The 
> extra information of when those different segments were launched should 
> be  contained in extra variables which represent the times of launching 
> the runs.  These datums, like "forecast_reference_time"  would contain a 
> single date.  But to introduce three time coordinate variables would be 
> a real headache.
> Opps, there I go again argueing that datums are a necessary part of 
> metadata, in the same sense as units.
> Tom Gross
>  
>  
>  *From:* ] *On Behalf Of *CJ Beegle-Krause
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2006 6:18 PM
> *To:* John Caron
> *Cc:* Ed Hartnett; cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] question and time and standard_name...
> 
> There is a need to distinguish whole or parts of model runs, for example 
> hindcast, nowcast and forecast could be sections of the same individual 
> model run.  It would also be good to agree on what each of those terms 
> could mean.
> 
> John Caron wrote:
> 
>>     another one is "forecast_reference_time", the base time a model
>>     run was made from.
>>
>>     Ed Hartnett wrote:
>>>     Howdy all!
>>>
>>>     The CF document says that standard_name may be used for time
>>>     coordinate variables.
>>>
>>>     But the standard name table gives only one valid standard_name for a
>>>     time variable: "time".
>>>
>>>     Can I assume then that there are no other standard names for time
>>>     coordinate variables?
>>>
>>>     Thanks!
>>>
>>>     Ed
>>>
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