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[CF-metadata] CF region_names

From: Jim Biard <jbiard>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:05:37 -0400

Martin,

I tend to agree with you. We have enough on our plates trying to deal with
standard names. The same goes with area types. I am assisting a group that
has > 200 of them. Are we really going to expand area types that broadly?
And when the next group has 100 slightly different types, what then? It
seems pretty clear that we need a scheme for referencing in some fashion
for these things, and drop the conceit that CF must be entirely
self-contained.

Grace and peace,

Jim

On Friday, April 24, 2015, Schultz, Martin <m.schultz at fz-juelich.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> what is this thing about region_names? I only now saw this popping up
> and must say that I strongly object to adopt these as a standard. Region
> definitions are so manifold and depend very much on individual applications
> that I don't see any value in adopting one set of names (here GCMD) and
> call them "CF region names". In my view this runs completely against what I
> conceive as the CF philosophy which is trying to be broad and encompass
> many application areas.
>
> Not only are the names of the regions under dispute, but even more so
> any definition of their boundaries. For example: for a lake area such as
> "caspian_sea", do you follow the lake boundaries (and if so in which year?)
> or do you mean the catchment area including all rivers running into it, or
> are you referring to a lon/lat rectangle?
>
> I have no problem with a concept that is called "gcmd_regions", for
> example, if it is detailed somewhere where these definitions come from and
> how the boundaries are defined. Note that there are indeed various other
> "prominent" region definitions, for example 6(+1) world regions by WMO, see
> https://www.wmo.int/pages/members/index_en.html, or the WMO code table
> 0161 specifying oceanic areas. But even then, I don't think that this
> belongs in the CF domain, but instead should be dealt with elsewhere. What
> CF can do in my opinion is to define suitable attributes how a region
> (code) and its underlying definition can be provided.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
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