I might have missed it, but I still don't think my original question
has been answered:
So if we see a problem with pages on
http://cf-convention.github.io/,
which github repo are we supposed to send a pull request to?
It's hard for me to tell which repo has the origin documents from
which all else is created.
Thanks,
Rich
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Jeffrey F. Painter <painter1 at llnl.gov> wrote:
> John,
>
> Yes, the name cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov has been redirected to kitt.llnl.gov so that
> cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/trac is really the same as kitt.llnl.gov/trac. You can
> tell because I just fixed your issue 4 on kitt, and now it's equally fixed
> in both places.
>
> The machine which was formerly cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov has very thoroughly died,
> although we have all the data that was on it.
>
> - Jeff
>
>
> On 4/16/14 4:18 PM, John Graybeal wrote:
>>
>> This was very helpful, thanks Jeff. I think it is complete with respect to
>> the concerns I raised.
>>
>> A worry I had about the two trac sites was that peoople might update the
>> 'wrong' one. But I see now they are the same content, so it is presumaby
>> just one site with some mapping under the hood to serve it two places. That
>> will work, so long as people know that's the deal.
>>
>> Let us know when you are ready for attention on the CF Conventions
>> document, and what kind of work it needs.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 15:59, "Jeffrey F. Painter"<painter1 at llnl.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> Rebuilding the CF Conventions web site is one of several things we're
>>> doing at PCMDI/LLNL to recover from a storm of hardware and software
>>> failures.
>>>
>>> Indeed the Trac system is up and you can get to it at
>>> http://kitt.llnl.gov/trac. This is the official site in the sense that
>>> contributions here will be preserved. But there's a reason why this url
>>> hasn't been advertised. As we figure out how to reconfigure things, we
>>> might decide to move the Trac system to another host. So please don't
>>> bookmark that address. Instead, bookmark
>>> http://cf-convention.github.io/
>>> This is the home page of the CF Conventions web site. For the Trac
>>> system, click on "CF Metadata Trac" in the "Quick Links" list.
>>>
>>> In the near future the best url for the CF Conventions web site will be
>>> http://cfconventions.org
>>> but it doesn't redirect to the right address yet. Andrew Harwood is
>>> trying to get that fixed, and has run into the kind of delays which are
>>> familiar to any of us who work for large organizations.
>>>
>>> Actually, the old url http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov is back up too. All that
>>> one does is to give you an opportunity to "click here" to visit the github
>>> site.
>>>
>>> Back to Trac, your old login will still work if you had one. The old
>>> system for getting an account there was to email me. That still works :-)
>>> (Presently the other people who can add accounts are Tony Hoang, Renata
>>> McCoy, and Karl Taylor). There never was much of anything in the Trac
>>> system to tell you how to get an account, but there should be; I need to
>>> figure it out.
>>>
>>> And thanks, John, for pointing out #4. I'll fix it.
>>>
>>> Now to the repositories and web site - There are three github
>>> repositories which contain the pieces that go into the web site. I
>>> relabeled them today in an attempt to make their purposes more clear. But
>>> repositories by their very nature are not user-friendly. The most important
>>> thing is that someone who only needs the web site will quickly realize that
>>> he needs to be somewhere else. Matthew Harris and I will be working on it
>>> some more.
>>>
>>> But the web site isn't fundamentally very complicated. I can't see how
>>> throwing a lot of manpower at it will make it work better or get things done
>>> faster. In the future what would benefit from a few more contributors would
>>> be the CF Conventions document itself, and its cousins. That is the
>>> secondary reason, after the general principle of openness, why the CF
>>> Conventions sources are on github now. BTW, the CF Conventions document is
>>> written in DocBook. Earlier this year there was a brief discussion of
>>> alternative formats. That belongs in a different thread, though.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if I've neglected to respond to anything which needed
>>> an answer from me.
>>>
>>> - Jeff
>>>
>>> On 4/16/14 11:50 AM, John Graybeal wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let me preface my concerns again volunteering to provide mildly
>>>> knowledgeable technical labor, if the issue is simply shortage of hours.
>>>>
>>>> Problems with the new Trac site:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Apparently there was a transition where the new site
>>>> http://kitt.llnl.gov/trac/ is now the real site?
>>>> - If so, I missed that announcement, sorry (or if there wasn't one,
>>>> there needs to be one.)
>>>> - If not, we need to clarify what gets reported where 'in the
>>>> meantime'.
>>>> 2)<resolved>
>>>> 3) If the new site is the official site can we make it straightforward
>>>> and documented how people get accounts and recover passwords?
>>>> 4) The upper left logo error (logo missing, not a crisis) sends you back
>>>> to the old Trac site (http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/trac/). Be warned.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestion re the process of reporting problems:
>>>> A) Rather than reporting all problems on one ticket, create a new ticket
>>>> for each problem and use the component 'cf-trac-site' or 'cf-web-site' as
>>>> appropriate. There are a large number of problems that result from reporting
>>>> multiple problems on one issue ticket.
>>>>
>>>> I have some additional issues with the new site, including Rich's, but
>>>> perhaps best to resolve the above first.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 05:49, Nan Galbraith<ngalbraith at whoi.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rich -
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a trac ticket for problems with the new website:
>>>>> http://kitt.llnl.gov/trac/ticket/111
>>>>>
>>>>> For other types of problems, not related to the site itself, I'm not
>>>>> sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nan
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/16/14 7:47 AM, Signell, Richard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CF folks,
>>>>>> Moving to github should help the community contribute and be able to
>>>>>> fix problem with the CF documents. But I'm a little confused about
>>>>>> what to do if we see a problem at http://cf-convention.github.io/ and
>>>>>> we want to submit a pull request to change them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the CF github organization (https://github.com/cf-convention) I see
>>>>>> three repositories:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. cf-convention.github.io
>>>>>> which controls the github pages showing up at
>>>>>> http://cf-convention.github.io/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. cf-documents
>>>>>> which contains HTML and PDF versions of the documents
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. repository-cf
>>>>>> a git svn clone of the old PCMI SVN repository
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if we see a problem with pages on http://cf-convention.github.io/,
>>>>>> which repo are we supposed to send a pull request to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Rich
>>>>>>
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