This was very helpful, thanks Jeff. I think it is complete with respect to the concerns I raised.
A worry I had about the two trac sites was that peoople might update the 'wrong' one. But I see now they are the same content, so it is presumaby just one site with some mapping under the hood to serve it two places. That will work, so long as people know that's the deal.
Let us know when you are ready for attention on the CF Conventions document, and what kind of work it needs.
John
On Apr 16, 2014, at 15:59, "Jeffrey F. Painter" <painter1 at llnl.gov> wrote:
> Rebuilding the CF Conventions web site is one of several things we're doing at PCMDI/LLNL to recover from a storm of hardware and software failures.
>
> Indeed the Trac system is up and you can get to it at http://kitt.llnl.gov/trac. This is the official site in the sense that contributions here will be preserved. But there's a reason why this url hasn't been advertised. As we figure out how to reconfigure things, we might decide to move the Trac system to another host. So please don't bookmark that address. Instead, bookmark
> http://cf-convention.github.io/
> This is the home page of the CF Conventions web site. For the Trac system, click on "CF Metadata Trac" in the "Quick Links" list.
>
> In the near future the best url for the CF Conventions web site will be
> http://cfconventions.org
> but it doesn't redirect to the right address yet. Andrew Harwood is trying to get that fixed, and has run into the kind of delays which are familiar to any of us who work for large organizations.
>
> Actually, the old url http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov is back up too. All that one does is to give you an opportunity to "click here" to visit the github site.
>
> Back to Trac, your old login will still work if you had one. The old system for getting an account there was to email me. That still works :-) (Presently the other people who can add accounts are Tony Hoang, Renata McCoy, and Karl Taylor). There never was much of anything in the Trac system to tell you how to get an account, but there should be; I need to figure it out.
>
> And thanks, John, for pointing out #4. I'll fix it.
>
> Now to the repositories and web site - There are three github repositories which contain the pieces that go into the web site. I relabeled them today in an attempt to make their purposes more clear. But repositories by their very nature are not user-friendly. The most important thing is that someone who only needs the web site will quickly realize that he needs to be somewhere else. Matthew Harris and I will be working on it some more.
>
> But the web site isn't fundamentally very complicated. I can't see how throwing a lot of manpower at it will make it work better or get things done faster. In the future what would benefit from a few more contributors would be the CF Conventions document itself, and its cousins. That is the secondary reason, after the general principle of openness, why the CF Conventions sources are on github now. BTW, the CF Conventions document is written in DocBook. Earlier this year there was a brief discussion of alternative formats. That belongs in a different thread, though.
>
> Please let me know if I've neglected to respond to anything which needed an answer from me.
>
> - Jeff
>
> On 4/16/14 11:50 AM, John Graybeal wrote:
>> Let me preface my concerns again volunteering to provide mildly knowledgeable technical labor, if the issue is simply shortage of hours.
>>
>> Problems with the new Trac site:
>>
>> 1) Apparently there was a transition where the new site http://kitt.llnl.gov/trac/ is now the real site?
>> - If so, I missed that announcement, sorry (or if there wasn't one, there needs to be one.)
>> - If not, we need to clarify what gets reported where 'in the meantime'.
>> 2)<resolved>
>> 3) If the new site is the official site can we make it straightforward and documented how people get accounts and recover passwords?
>> 4) The upper left logo error (logo missing, not a crisis) sends you back to the old Trac site (http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/trac/). Be warned.
>>
>> Suggestion re the process of reporting problems:
>> A) Rather than reporting all problems on one ticket, create a new ticket for each problem and use the component 'cf-trac-site' or 'cf-web-site' as appropriate. There are a large number of problems that result from reporting multiple problems on one issue ticket.
>>
>> I have some additional issues with the new site, including Rich's, but perhaps best to resolve the above first.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 05:49, Nan Galbraith<ngalbraith at whoi.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rich -
>>>
>>> There's a trac ticket for problems with the new website:
>>> http://kitt.llnl.gov/trac/ticket/111
>>>
>>> For other types of problems, not related to the site itself, I'm not sure.
>>>
>>> Nan
>>>
>>> On 4/16/14 7:47 AM, Signell, Richard wrote:
>>>> CF folks,
>>>> Moving to github should help the community contribute and be able to
>>>> fix problem with the CF documents. But I'm a little confused about
>>>> what to do if we see a problem at http://cf-convention.github.io/ and
>>>> we want to submit a pull request to change them.
>>>>
>>>> At the CF github organization (https://github.com/cf-convention) I see
>>>> three repositories:
>>>>
>>>> 1. cf-convention.github.io
>>>> which controls the github pages showing up at
>>>> http://cf-convention.github.io/
>>>>
>>>> 2. cf-documents
>>>> which contains HTML and PDF versions of the documents
>>>>
>>>> 3. repository-cf
>>>> a git svn clone of the old PCMI SVN repository
>>>>
>>>> So if we see a problem with pages on http://cf-convention.github.io/,
>>>> which repo are we supposed to send a pull request to?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rich
>>>>
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