Dear Heinke, Frank, Karl and Jonathan,
The CMIP5 regions I was thinking of were the names of various sea channels and straits. We added a lot of physical oceanography standard names for CMIP5 and among them were ocean mass and heat transports due to a number of processes and calculated in a number of locations such as:
barents_opening
bering_strait
denmark_strait
drake_passage
english_channel
equatorial_undercurrent
faroe_scotland_channel
florida_strait
fram_strait
iceland_faroe_channel
indonesian_throughflow
mozambique_channel
scotland_iceland_channel
taiwan_and_luzon_straits
windward_passage.
These were discussed as far back as 2008 and I don't think there were any objections to having them as region names but they have never been added to the list.
Karl and Jonathan (offlist) have both responded to say that they would like the region names to be maintained as a controlled vocabulary along with the standard name and area type tables. I'm happy to do this and I will update the region list to add the above names and contiguous_united_states at the same time as the next standard name table update.
I don't know about the region requirements of projects such as CORDEX - I think the region names are all intended to be geographical areas rather than areas covered by particular projects. If you need to add any further geographical regions please let me know via the mailing list.
According to the text in the current document there are no countries in the list but they can be added. Is there an active need to include all the countries in the ISO list? I assume that you are suggesting adding the country names, rather than the short codes.
Best wishes,
Alison
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From: cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Heinke Hoeck
Sent: 12 January 2012 10:58
To: Karl Taylor; cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Request for a region standard_name
Dear Karl and all,
for CMIP5 we presently have no information about certain regions (observations?). Do you mean the subregions as defined in follow up projects as, e.g., CORDEX?
As far as countries are concerned we strongly recommend to use the ISO normalization as explained, e.g., here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2
This probably also will us enable to solve the "GB/UK problem".
Best wishes
Heinke & Frank
On 01/12/2012 02:36 AM, Karl Taylor wrote:
Dear Alison and all,
I have not objection to adding the region. I also favor the Standard Names Committee (and you) be responsible for the region names. Finally, I would ask the committee to consider adding any CMIP5 region identifiers to the official list, unless of course those names seem inappropriate.
thanks,
Karl
On 1/11/12 7:00 AM, alison.pamment at stfc.ac.uk<mailto:alison.pamment at stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
Dear Jonathan,
In September Jim Biard requested a standardized region name for the contiguous United States. Several people commented and there was general agreement that contiguous_united_states would be a suitable string to add to the list of region names.
Before I proceed, however, I note that the file on the CF website which contains the region names also contains the following introductory text:
"This list was based on the NASA GCMD keyword list for locations which was valid on 12 December 2002. We retained only the names of geographical regions from the GCMD list, changing them to lower case and replacing the separators within the names by underscores to be consistent with the style used for CF standard names. We excluded (a) countries (these could be added if required), (b) regions that could be specified by coordinate ranges in CF (e.g. western hemisphere), (c) ill-defined regions (e.g. west Africa), (d) names for layers and surfaces of the Earth (e.g. mantle, sea floor), which are or would be included in standard names if required. We have also added names shown like this. Our intention is to keep this list consistent with GCMD."
I wonder if this list has ever been updated since December 2002 (I certainly haven't made any changes). Does the list need to be reviewed? Also, strictly speaking, the region list is separate from the standard name table, so do we want it to be maintained along with standard names (I'm happy to keep it up to date if the answer is 'yes') or should it be regarded as the domain of the conventions committee? I'd appreciate it if we can clarify who should be maintaining the list before I go ahead and start making modifications. I think there may be some CMIP5 related region names that are also not currently part of the list.
Best wishes,
Alison
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NCAS/British Atmospheric Data Centre Email: alison.pamment at stfc.ac.uk<mailto:alison.pamment at stfc.ac.uk>
STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
R25, 2.22
Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K.
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From: cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu> [mailto:cf-metadata-
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Sent: 16 September 2011 16:55
To: cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu>
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Request for a region standard_name
Dear Jim
Following Don's comment, if you'd be happy with a standard region name
of
contiguous_united_states, and since no-one else has objected, I think
we
should agree to that. (We can omit of_america; I would expect people to
know
where the united_kingdom is without
of_great_britain_and_northern_ireland!)
I expect Alison will comment and/or add it to the table when she is
able to.
Cheers
Jonathan
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