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[CF-metadata] Fwd: PALEO..

From: Cecelia DeLuca <Cecelia.DeLuca>
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:49:30 -0600

  Jay, Karl, fwiw:
>
> If you need to get the actual date correct, at least throughout the
> post-gregorian period (i.e., after 1582-10-15), then you should set
> calendar to "proleptic_gregorian", and be careful to set your basetime
> after 1582-10-15, I think. I don't think you can count on dates being
> correct for times earlier than 1582-10-15, but maybe some software
> does this right.

The ESMF proleptic Gregorian calendar goes back to 4801 BC. From Earl
Schwab,
the developer:

"[only going back to 4801 BC] is a limitation of the Fliegel/Van
Flandern algorithm, mentioned
in the ref doc for ESMF_TimeSet():

http://www.earthsystemmodeling.org/esmf_releases/last_built/ESMF_refdoc/node6.html#SECTION060541500000000000000

http://www.earthsystemmodeling.org/esmf_releases/last_built/ESMF_refdoc/node8.html#Fli68


Also, in the comments of the source in
ESMCI_Calendar.C:Calendar::convertToTime():

// The Fliegel algorithm implements the Gregorian calendar as
continuously
// proleptic from October 15, 1582 backward to March 1, -4800/-4900.
// Hence the algorithm does not take into account the Gregorian
Reformation
// (when the Gregorian calendar officially began) where 10 days were
// eliminated from the calendar in October 1582. Thursday, October
4, 1582
// was officially the last day of the Julian calendar; the following
day,
// Friday, was decreed to be October 15, 1582, the first day of the
// Gregorian calendar.

These limits are tested in our nightly runs via ESMF_CalRangeUTest.F90()."

Not sure if there is another algorithm that can go back before 4801 for
paleo people.
Cecelia


// The Fliegel algorithm implements the Gregorian calendar as
continuously
// proleptic from October 15, 1582 backward to March 1, -4800/-4900.
// Hence the algorithm does not take into account the Gregorian
Reformation
// (when the Gregorian calendar officially began) where 10 days were
// eliminated from the calendar in October 1582. Thursday, October
4, 1582
// was officially the last day of the Julian calendar; the following
day,
// Friday, was decreed to be October 15, 1582, the first day of the
// Gregorian calendar.
>
> regards,
> Karl
>
> On 3/10/11 3:55 PM, Karl Taylor wrote:
>> Could someone please advise Jay?
>> thanks,
>> Karl
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: PALEO..
>> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:37:51 -0800
>> From: Jay Hnilo <hnilo2000 at gmail.com>
>> To: Taylor, Karl Taylor <taylor13 at llnl.gov>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Karl,
>>
>> If you happen to have some paleo data--how do you put it into
>> netcdf--knowing it goes from 10000 years ago to present day?
>>
>> I'm asking mainly about the time.units, time.calendar, time coordinate values..
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jay
>
>
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