[CF-metadata] Fwd: Two-variable integer Time in CF? (V. Balaji)

From: Philip J. Cameron-smith <cameronsmith1>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 10:51:10 -0800 (PST)

Hi,

The unit 'days' is so central to atmospheric behavior that it would be a
shame to lose it. However, to complicate the mix further, there is even
an alternative Earth day: the sidereal day (the time it takes for
the Earth to spin once and face the same stars, as opposed to the sun).
The difference is about 4 minutes less than a calendar day.

Best wishes,

      Philip

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, David Stuebe wrote:

> I support Rich and Balaji in creating a two integer time standard. I think
> the tick_length as a attribute is a great idea for non-rational times, and I
> agree with Rich that the major unit should be specified by the user - Days,
> Second, Hours, Years etc...
>
> Concerning Days and earth-centric time units in UDUNITS
>
> Days - or rather (Modified) Julian Date as defined using a two integer time
> variables is an extremely practical method of storing time information for
> many, but not all applications. A standard for time and date which includes
> the needed definition of Day and time origin is important, (leap seconds
> aside) although not general as you pointed out for ET models... A definition
> of Day should remain in UDUNITS. Is there a standard for setting time origin
> for MJD and JD?
>
> I found it difficult to set time origin using an attribute, the string gets
> complicated. I would suggest a seperate variable if it does not conform to
> some recognized standard like JD or MJD...
>
> About the choice of Millisecond as the minor unit, it is not arbitrary for
> storing MJD dates, there are more Microseconds in a day than can be stored
> in a 32-bit integer. To avoid dealing with long integers, I choose
> Milliseconds for FVCOM output, though in the model, the Time Type/Class uses
> 64-bit integers and microseconds.
>
> I don't see a type name for 64-bit integers in the NETCDF 3 docs - am I
> missing something?
>
> David
>

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