Hello Jonathan, Karl,
I don't understand why this is considered an "error" in the standard names. There are many cases where people have put terms in their GMD papers and claimed that they are "CF standard names" without taking the trouble to put them through the discussion and approval process of the CF Convention. This is a clear procedural error which happened in several MIPs ... we obviously need to improve communication on the procedures.
In answer to Karl's question: there are no approved or aliased terms of the form "....mesoscale_advection" in the CF Standard Name list. The approved terms consistently use the form "mesoscale/submesoscale_eddy_advection".
I didn't follow the discussion on these terms when they were added .. Alison may be able to say more about why the "eddy" term is included,
regards,
Martin
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Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] too many eddies in standard names
Hi Jonathan,
One could conceivably want to distinguish between, for example,
northward_ocean_heat_transport_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
and
northward_ocean_heat_transport_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_advection
or does "mesoscale" imply "eddy" and for that reason "eddy" can be removed? If "mesocale eddy advection" and mesocale advection" are not identical, we could leave the already defined variables as is and add a companion set with "eddy" omitted.
Of course for CMIP6, we would want to request only one of the two types of advection; from your reference to GMD, I assume you want the quantity without "eddy" in the name.
best regards,
Karl
On 2/27/19 10:46 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
> Dear Alison, Martin et al.
>
> I have noticed that several of the new ocean tendency diagnostics we have
> added to the standard name table for CMIP6 contain "eddy", but should not do.
> The word "eddy" should appear only in parameterized_eddy_advection, not in
> mesoscale advection, mesoscale diffusion, submesoscale advection or
> dianeutral mixing. I think _eddy should be deleted from all of the names listed
> below. I don't know how we got this wrong! The standard names appear correctly
> in the two relevant GMD papers.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jonathan
>
> northward_ocean_heat_transport_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> northward_ocean_heat_transport_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_diffusion
> northward_ocean_heat_transport_due_to_parameterized_submesoscale_eddy_advection
> ocean_meridional_overturning_mass_streamfunction_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> ocean_meridional_overturning_mass_streamfunction_due_to_parameterized_submesoscale_eddy_advection
> ocean_tracer_biharmonic_diffusivity_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> ocean_tracer_diffusivity_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> ocean_tracer_laplacian_diffusivity_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> ocean_y_overturning_mass_streamfunction_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> ocean_y_overturning_mass_streamfunction_due_to_parameterized_submesoscale_eddy_advection
> tendency_of_sea_water_conservative_temperature_expressed_as_heat_content_due_to_parameterized_eddy_dianeutral_mixing
> tendency_of_sea_water_conservative_temperature_expressed_as_heat_content_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> tendency_of_sea_water_conservative_temperature_expressed_as_heat_content_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_diffusion
> tendency_of_sea_water_conservative_temperature_expressed_as_heat_content_due_to_parameterized_submesoscale_eddy_advection
> tendency_of_sea_water_potential_temperature_expressed_as_heat_content_due_to_parameterized_eddy_dianeutral_mixing
> tendency_of_sea_water_potential_temperature_expressed_as_heat_content_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> tendency_of_sea_water_potential_temperature_expressed_as_heat_content_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_diffusion
> tendency_of_sea_water_potential_temperature_expressed_as_heat_content_due_to_parameterized_submesoscale_eddy_advection
> tendency_of_sea_water_salinity_expressed_as_salt_content_due_to_parameterized_eddy_dianeutral_mixing
> tendency_of_sea_water_salinity_expressed_as_salt_content_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_advection
> tendency_of_sea_water_salinity_expressed_as_salt_content_due_to_parameterized_mesoscale_eddy_diffusion
> tendency_of_sea_water_salinity_expressed_as_salt_content_due_to_parameterized_submesoscale_eddy_advection
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