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[CF-metadata] [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Add calendars gregorian_tai and gregorian_utc (#148)

From: Micah Wengren <micah.wengren>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 21:06:27 -0500

CF-aficionados,

I subscribed to this list awhile ago and read the occasional emails that
relate to the standards.? I can definitely appreciate the passion in
this community!

However, I don't think forwarding all GitHub issue traffic to a mailing
list is a good idea, especially when by accident if someone can respond
to such a notification by email, cc the GitHub-subscribed list in their
email and thereby trick GitHub into assuming the list itself had
responded, rather than the list subscriber (who presumably does not have
a GitHub account or was replying with an email address GitHub didn't
recognize).

This was suggested already, but to reiterate: whoever knows the
'cf-metadata-list' GitHub account password, just log in and check the
'unsubscribe' button on this issue and spare us the spam.

Or, if the list GitHub account owner isn't out there - or on vacation
perhaps - a second option is just to take mercy on us all and close this
particular issue, move on to a new, fresh and clean calendar issue to
debate this topic, and refer back to the original trouble issue for
context (just a simple cf-conventions#148 string in the new issue will
do the trick). This way, all your discussion isn't lost, and hopefully
the 'cf-metadata-list' GitHub account problem can be sorted out in good
time without all these emails for us all to delete...


This reminds me of a really fun chain email incident we had at NOAA
recently (others here may recall), where a never-ending chain started of
'please unsubscribe me from this list' reply-all emails to a particular
email alias to which a good part of the agency is auto-subscribed, each
new email just prolonging the spam for everyone else.? I missed out on
replying-all to join in that fun, but not this time!? So.... please
unsubscribe me!!

Sincerely,

Micah


On 11/8/18 4:20 PM, Mcgibbney, Lewis J (398M) wrote:
>
> Hello Folks,
>
> I refrained from commenting on this thread for a day or two now with
> the hope that someone would sort our the cross-posting issue. As it
> has not been sorted out, I wanted to share some of the actions I?ve
> undertaken in an effort to mute the thread on my side?
>
> * I unsubscribed from the listserv
> * I tried to mute the thread on Github, which I was unable to do
> because my JPL email address has never been associated with a
> Github thread.
> * I unfollowed the repository with my personal email address and set
> notifications to off.
> * ? I was still getting notifications after the above actions, so
> I?ve resorted to trashing every message which matches
> ?cf-convention/cf-conventions? in title.
>
> This is a shame as I did for a while monitor what was going on within
> this community.
>
> Someone, somewhere has switched something to cross post every event to
> the mailing list, which is not a good thing to do unless people like
> that kind of traffic. As you can see from the sentiment which has been
> posted here, people get rather annoyed pretty quickly.
>
> I?ll maybe try joining again the mailing list in the future and see if
> this has been sorted out however until then keep up the good work on
> CF-Conventions folks.
>
> Lewis
>
> Dr. Lewis John McGibbney Ph.D.,?B.Sc.
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> *Subject: *Re: [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Add calendars
> gregorian_tai and gregorian_utc (#148)
>
> The CF calendar attribute specifies the calendar for the reference
> timestamp and other timestamps, and the rules for converting
> between timestamps and time coordinates. This seems convenient and
> clear to me. We just need to add the new ones for (proper) UTC,
> TAI and GPS, I think.
>
> and a new one for this use case -- the current "gregorian" is NOT the
> same thing. It often (maybe mostly) is, but it is actually ambiguous
> with regard to leap seconds, and we need to keep that.
>
> Also, once we have the new "calendars", it should not be used for this
> use case, and should only be used with "metrical" values :-)
>
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