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[CF-metadata] Platform Heave

From: Nan Galbraith <ngalbraith>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:19:16 -0400

Nice, thanks, Jim.

My only suggestion, after a very quick read-through, is that we could
put the definition of platform at the end of the variable's definition.
That makes it much easier to scan these for the right term.

Cheers - Nan

Quoting Jim Biard <jbiard at cicsnc.org>:

> Hi.
>
>
> How about these definitions?
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> ==================
>
>
> platform_roll_starboard_down: Platform is a structure or vehicle
> that serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but
> are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. Roll is a rotation about an axis that is
> perpendicular to the local vertical axis and is coplanar with the
> nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Roll is relative
> to the ?at rest? rotation of the platform with respect to the axis
> of rotation. The ?at rest? rotation of the platform may change over
> time. "Starboard down" indicates that positive values of roll
> represent the right side of the platform falling as viewed by an
> observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_roll_starboard_up: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. Roll is a rotation about an axis that is
> perpendicular to the local vertical axis and is coplanar with the
> nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Roll is relative
> to the ?at rest? rotation of the platform with respect to the axis
> of rotation. The ?at rest? rotation of the platform may change over
> time. "Starboard up" indicates that positive values of roll
> represent the right side of the platform rising as viewed by an
> observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_roll_rate_starboard_down: Platform is a structure or
> vehicle that serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms
> include, but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> buoys, ground stations, and masts. "Roll rate" is the rate of
> rotation about an axis that is perpendicular to the local vertical
> axis and is coplanar with the nominal forward motion direction of
> the platform. Roll rate might not include changes to the ?at rest?
> rotation of the platform with respect to the axis of rotation, which
> may change over time. "Starboard down" indicates that positive
> values of roll rate represent the right side of the platform falling
> as viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_roll_rate_starboard_up: Platform is a structure or vehicle
> that serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but
> are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Roll rate" is the rate of rotation about an
> axis that is perpendicular to the local vertical axis and is
> coplanar with the nominal forward motion direction of the platform.
> Roll rate might not include changes to the ?at rest? rotation of the
> platform with respect to the axis of rotation, which may change over
> time. "Starboard up" indicates that positive values of roll rate
> represent the right side of the platform rising as viewed by an
> observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_pitch_fore_up: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. Pitch is a rotation about an axis that is
> perpendicular to both the local vertical axis and the nominal
> forward motion direction of the platform. Pitch is relative to the
> ?at rest? rotation of the platform with respect to the axis of
> rotation. The ?at rest? rotation of the platform may change over
> time. "Fore up" indicates that positive values of pitch represent
> the front of the platform rising as viewed by an observer on top of
> the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_pitch_fore_down: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. Pitch is a rotation about an axis that is
> perpendicular to both the local vertical axis and the nominal
> forward motion direction of the platform. Pitch is relative to the
> ?at rest? rotation of the platform with respect to the axis of
> rotation. The ?at rest? rotation of the platform may change over
> time. "Fore down" indicates that positive values of pitch represent
> the front of the platform falling as viewed by an observer on top of
> the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_pitch_rate_fore_up: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Pitch rate" is the rate of rotation about an
> axis that is perpendicular to both the local vertical axis and the
> nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Pitch rate might
> not include changes to the ?at rest? rotation of the platform with
> respect to the axis of rotation, which may change over time. "Fore
> up" indicates that positive values of pitch rate represent the front
> of the platform rising as viewed by an observer on top of the
> platform facing forward.
>
> platform_pitch_rate_fore_down: Platform is a structure or vehicle
> that serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but
> are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Pitch rate" is the rate of rotation about an
> axis that is perpendicular to both the local vertical axis and the
> nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Pitch rate might
> not include changes to the ?at rest? rotation of the platform with
> respect to the axis of rotation, which may change over time. "Fore
> down" indicates that positive values of pitch rate represent the
> front of the platform falling as viewed by an observer on top of the
> platform facing forward.
>
> platform_yaw_fore_starboard: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. Yaw is a rotation about the axis of rotation.
> Yaw is relative to the ?at rest? rotation of the platform with
> respect to the axis of rotation. The ?at rest? rotation of the
> platform may change over time. "Fore starboard" indicates that
> positive values of yaw represent the front of the platform moving to
> the right as viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing
> forward.
>
> platform_yaw_fore_port: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. Yaw is a rotation about the axis of rotation.
> Yaw is relative to the ?at rest? rotation of the platform with
> respect to the axis of rotation. The ?at rest? rotation of the
> platform may change over time. "Fore port" indicates that positive
> values of yaw represent the front of the platform moving to the left
> as viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_yaw_rate_fore_starboard: Platform is a structure or vehicle
> that serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but
> are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Yaw rate" is the rate of rotation about the
> axis of rotation. Yaw rate might not include changes to the ?at
> rest? rotation of the platform with respect to the axis of rotation,
> which may change over time. "Fore starboard" indicates that positive
> values of yaw rate represent the front of the platform moving to the
> right as viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_yaw_rate_fore_port: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Yaw rate" is the rate of rotation about the
> axis of rotation. Yaw rate might not include changes to the ?at
> rest? rotation of the platform with respect to the axis of rotation,
> which may change over time. "Fore port" indicates that positive
> values of yaw rate represent the front of the platform moving to the
> left as viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_surge_fore: Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves
> as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not
> limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations,
> and masts. Surge is a displacement along an axis that is
> perpendicular to the local vertical axis and is coplanar with the
> nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Surge is relative
> to the ?at rest? position of the platform with respect to the axis
> of displacement. The ?at rest? position of the platform may change
> over time. "Fore" indicates that positive values of surge represent
> the platform moving forward as viewed by an observer on top of the
> platform facing forward.
>
> platform_surge_aft: Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves
> as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not
> limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations,
> and masts. Surge is a displacement along an axis that is
> perpendicular to the local vertical axis and is coplanar with the
> nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Surge is relative
> to the ?at rest? position of the platform with respect to the axis
> of displacement. The ?at rest? position of the platform may change
> over time. "Aft" indicates that positive values of surge represent
> the platform moving backward as viewed by an observer on top of the
> platform facing forward.
>
> platform_surge_rate_fore: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Surge rate" is the rate of displacement along
> an axis that is perpendicular to the local vertical axis and is
> coplanar with the nominal forward motion direction of the platform.
> Surge rate might not include changes to the ?at rest? position of
> the platform with respect to the axis of displacement, which may
> change over time. "Fore" indicates that positive values of surge
> rate represent the platform moving forward as viewed by an observer
> on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_surge_rate_aft: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Surge rate" is the rate of displacement along
> an axis that is perpendicular to the local vertical axis and is
> coplanar with the nominal forward motion direction of the platform.
> Surge rate might not include changes to the ?at rest? position of
> the platform with respect to the axis of displacement, which may
> change over time. "Aft" indicates that positive values of surge rate
> represent the platform moving backward as viewed by an observer on
> top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_sway_port: Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves
> as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not
> limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations,
> and masts. Sway is a displacement along an axis that is
> perpendicular to both the local vertical axis and the nominal
> forward motion direction of the platform. Sway is relative to the
> ?at rest? position of the platform with respect to the axis of
> displacement. The ?at rest? position of the platform may change over
> time. "Port" indicates that positive values of sway represent the
> platform moving left as viewed by an observer on top of the platform
> facing forward.
>
> platform_sway_starboard: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. Sway is a displacement along an axis that is
> perpendicular to both the local vertical axis and the nominal
> forward motion direction of the platform. Sway is relative to the
> ?at rest? position of the platform with respect to the axis of
> displacement. The ?at rest? position of the platform may change over
> time. "Starboard" indicates that positive values of sway represent
> the platform moving right as viewed by an observer on top of the
> platform facing forward.
>
> platform_sway_rate_port: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Sway rate" is the rate of displacement along
> an axis that is perpendicular to both the local vertical axis and
> the nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Sway rate may
> not include changes to the ?at rest? position of the platform with
> respect to the axis of displacement, which may change over time.
> "Port" indicates that positive values of sway rate represent the
> platform moving left as viewed by an observer on top of the platform
> facing forward.
>
> platform_sway_rate_starboard: Platform is a structure or vehicle
> that serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but
> are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Sway rate" is a displacement along an axis
> that is perpendicular to both the local vertical axis and the
> nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Sway rate may not
> include changes to the ?at rest? position of the platform with
> respect to the axis of displacement, which may change over time.
> "Starboard" indicates that positive values of sway rate represent
> the platform moving right as viewed by an observer on top of the
> platform facing forward.
>
> platform_heave_up: Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves as
> a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not limited
> to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations, and
> masts. Heave is a displacement along the local vertical axis. Heave
> is relative to the ?at rest? position of the platform with respect
> to the axis of displacement. The ?at rest? position of the platform
> may change over time. "Up" indicates that positive values of heave
> represent the platform moving up as viewed by an observer on top of
> the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_heave_down: Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves
> as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not
> limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations,
> and masts. Heave is a displacement along the local vertical axis.
> Heave is relative to the ?at rest? position of the platform with
> respect to the axis of displacement. The ?at rest? position of the
> platform may change over time. "Down" indicates that positive values
> of heave represent the platform moving down as viewed by an observer
> on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_heave_rate_up: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Heave rate" is the rate of displacement along
> the local vertical axis. Heave rate may not include changes to the
> ?at rest? position of the platform with respect to the axis of
> displacement, which may change over time. "Up" indicates that
> positive values of heave rate represent the platform moving up as
> viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_heave_rate_down: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> stations, and masts. "Heave rate" is the rate of displacement along
> the local vertical axis. Heave rate may not include changes to the
> ?at rest? position of the platform with respect to the axis of
> displacement, which may change over time. "Down" indicates that
> positive values of heave rate represent the platform moving down as
> viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>
> platform_course: Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves as a
> base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not limited
> to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations, and
> masts. Course is the clockwise angle with respect to North of the
> nominal forward motion direction of the platform.
>
> platform_orientation: Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves
> as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not
> limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations,
> and masts. Orientation is the clockwise angle with respect to North
> of the longitudinal (front-to-back) axis of the platform, which may
> be different than the platform course (see platform_course).
>
>
> On 9/11/18 12:13 PM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
>>
>> Dear Nan and Jim,
>>
>>
>> It was me, on my own volition,?who raised concerns about the use of
>> nautical terms to try and make the concepts domain-independent.
>> However,?'port' is such an elegant way of saying 'left when facing
>> forward' that I don't think we should resist it. Saw a nice
>> definition for port ?- 'The side of a platform?that is on the left
>> when one is facing forward.'
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Roy.
>>
>>
>> I have now retired but will continue to be active through an
>> Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* CF-metadata <cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of
>> Jim Biard <jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>> *Sent:* 11 September 2018 16:37
>> *To:* cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
>>
>> Nan,
>>
>> That was my concern. As I have thought about it, we can make it
>> clear in the definition text. I'll generate those later this week.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On 9/11/18 10:53 AM, Nan Galbraith wrote:
>>> I agree completely. Thanks to all for keeping at it with this topic.
>>>
>>> ?* platform_roll_starboard_down
>>> ?* platform_yaw_fore_starboard
>>> ?* platform_pitch_fore_up
>>> ?* platform_surge_fore
>>> ?* platform_sway _port
>>> ?* platform_heave_up
>>>
>>> There was some concern expressed about using port and starboard, because
>>> satellite folks don't normally use those terms. I was unable to
>>> figure out exactly
>>> who raised this point, the thread is long and sometimes my mail
>>> client makes the
>>> sender of each message a little obscure.
>>>
>>> I'm assuming even satellites have a 'front' - ADCPs don't, really,
>>> except by some
>>> obscure convention set by the vendors - so presumably people will
>>> be able to figure
>>> out which side is which, and these terms will be OK.
>>>
>>> - Nan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/7/18 4:07 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good point,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you'd prefer platform_roll_starboard_down and so on?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Roy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* John Graybeal <jbgraybeal at mindspring.com>
>>>> <mailto:jbgraybeal at mindspring.com>
>>>> *Sent:* 07 September 2018 03:29
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
>>>> Sorry if I missed a point, but joining the motion to platform_
>>>> will be much more findable. Platform roll for example is a really
>>>> common expression.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 6, 2018, at 08:22, Lowry, Roy K. <rkl at bodc.ac.uk
>>>> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk>
>>>> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking good to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Roy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* CF-metadata <cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu
>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>> on behalf of Jim
>>>>> Biard <jbiard at cicsnc.org <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>>
>>>>> *Sent:* 05 September 2018 17:38
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
>>>>>
>>>>> Roy, Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I expect that surge, sway, and heave may well not have any
>>>>> "alternate direction" representations in the wild, but I recall
>>>>> that we found that the same is not true of pitch, roll, and yaw.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should we define the "canonical" set in such a fashion that the
>>>>> sign convention is explicit and wait for people to request the
>>>>> others?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess that would be:
>>>>>
>>>>> ? * platform_starboard_down_roll
>>>>> ? * platform_fore_starboard_yaw
>>>>> ? * platform_fore_up_pitch
>>>>> ? * platform_fore_surge
>>>>> ? * platform_port_sway
>>>>> ? * platform_up_heave
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that what we want?
>>>>>
>>>>> Grace and peace,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/5/18 12:10 PM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Roy OK, yes. I agree with that too! We should not provide
>>>>>> standard names for there is no use case yet. However, it's a
>>>>>> good idea for foresee how this may be done, so that a neat
>>>>>> solution is readily available when the day comes. Best wishes
>>>>>> and thanks Jonathan On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 04:07:26PM +0000,
>>>>>> Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 16:07:26 +0000 From: "Lowry, Roy K."
>>>>>>> <rkl at bodc.ac.uk> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk> Subject: Re:
>>>>>>> [CF-metadata] Platform Heave Dear Jonathan, This isn't a
>>>>>>> desire to mandate, it's just an attempt to prevent the
>>>>>>> creation of six unnecessary Standard Names for sign
>>>>>>> conventions based on my knowledge and researches of
>>>>>>> oceanographic data that don't exist. Should anybody come up
>>>>>>> with a single example of the opposite sign convention in
>>>>>>> heave/sway/surge from any other domain then the additional
>>>>>>> Standard Names will obviously need setting up. Anybody know of
>>>>>>> any??? It also goes without saying the 'normal' conventions
>>>>>>> should leave the door open - for example 'upward heave' leaves
>>>>>>> the door open for a future 'downward heave'. This follows
>>>>>>> another principle of CF Standard Names which is that Standard
>>>>>>> Names should only set up when there is a demonstrable use case
>>>>>>> and not just in case a use case arises. Cheers, Roy. From:
>>>>>>> CF-metadata <cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>>>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>>>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>>>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of
>>>>>>> Jonathan Gregory <j.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> <mailto:j.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> <mailto:j.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk>
>>>>>>> <mailto:j.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk> Sent: 05 September 2018 16:26
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave Dear Jim and Roy In
>>>>>>> general, we want CF to be able to describe the datasets that
>>>>>>> users want to describe, rather than mandating particular
>>>>>>> choices. Projects that use CF can do that, of course, like
>>>>>>> CMIP6 does, which prescribes the standard_names of the
>>>>>>> quantities to be submitted. Best wishes Jonathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 09:32:37 -0400 From: Jim Biard
>>>>>>>> <jbiard at cicsnc.org> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
>>>>>>>> Roy, Good point! However (of course there has to be a
>>>>>>>> 'but'!), are we OK with forcing people to modify their data
>>>>>>>> to match our convention? Are there other situations where a
>>>>>>>> standard name requires a certain representation? The existing
>>>>>>>> datasets that people have mentioned are history, but they are
>>>>>>>> also indicative of different sign conventions out there "in
>>>>>>>> the wild". Grace and peace, Jim On 9/5/18 4:22 AM, Lowry, Roy
>>>>>>>> K. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Jim, I think maybe you're doing more work than
>>>>>>>>> necessary. I see the work falling into three parts. 1)
>>>>>>>>> Revision of the definitions of heave/heave rate that are
>>>>>>>>> part of a new Standard Name that has yet to be accepted. 2)
>>>>>>>>> Creation of new Standard Names for Ken for sway/sway rate
>>>>>>>>> and surge/surge rate 3) Upgrade to the definitions of the
>>>>>>>>> existing Standard Names for pitch, roll and yaw. How about
>>>>>>>>> hard-wiring direction conventions for cases (1) and (2) -
>>>>>>>>> heave positive up, surge positive forwards and sway to match
>>>>>>>>> Ken's data sets? As these are new Standard Names they cannot
>>>>>>>>> be out in the wild with the opposite direction convention.
>>>>>>>>> We would then need to deprecate the three existing Standard
>>>>>>>>> Names and replace them with six new ones. One other thought
>>>>>>>>> that is occupying my mind is whether the rate parameters are
>>>>>>>>> scalars or vectors? Any thoughts? Cheers, Roy. *From:*
>>>>>>>>> CF-metadata <cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of Jim
>>>>>>>>> Biard <jbiard at cicsnc.org> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 04 September 2018 16:36 *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata]
>>>>>>>>> Platform Heave Jonathan, Two out of three of Nan's "most
>>>>>>>>> intuitive" rotations (pitch and yaw) are clockwise rather
>>>>>>>>> than anticlockwise if the unit vectors are X-fore, Y-port,
>>>>>>>>> and Z-up, which form a right-hand coordinate system. This is
>>>>>>>>> part of why you will see examples where the unit vectors are
>>>>>>>>> defined as X-fore, Y-starboard, and Z-down. This orientation
>>>>>>>>> of the unit vectors makes yaw to starboard, pitch up, and
>>>>>>>>> roll starboard down all anticlockwise rotations, but it
>>>>>>>>> points the Z unit vector down, which is, for most people,
>>>>>>>>> rather counter-intuitive. And this is why we are trying to
>>>>>>>>> define things in terms that don't require specification of
>>>>>>>>> unit vector directions. I'm going to try to continue down
>>>>>>>>> that path and avoid calling out clockwise/anticlockwise.
>>>>>>>>> Grace and peace, Jim On 9/4/18 10:18 AM, Jonathan Gregory
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the general consensus, then we can go that
>>>>>>>>>>> general direction. I'll prepare pairs of everything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your flexibility.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding Nan's suggestions for names - I'm not a "ship
>>>>>>>>>>> person" so starboard and port are unfamiliar terms that I
>>>>>>>>>>> have to constantly check myself on. I dislike putting them
>>>>>>>>>>> in the names. I don't see them in regular use in the
>>>>>>>>>>> satellite domain. The same goes for bow as far as usage
>>>>>>>>>>> outside of the ship domain. Airplanes have noses.
>>>>>>>>>>> Satellites have ... I don't know if there is even a name,
>>>>>>>>>>> as there is no need for a leading edge. I'll struggle to
>>>>>>>>>>> find something, and then we can wrangle over it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree with you - it would be better to have something
>>>>>>>>>> generic and self- explanatory, even if it diverges from
>>>>>>>>>> familiar terminology.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the "most intuitive" way to represent the angles -
>>>>>>>>>>> and most consistent as well, in my view - is clockwise
>>>>>>>>>>> rotations around the unit vectors. This makes positive yaw
>>>>>>>>>>> to starboard, positive pitch nose up, and positive roll
>>>>>>>>>>> starboard up. But we are talking about having both signs
>>>>>>>>>>> represented in names, so I guess that is moot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree with this too. For describing polygonal bounds, we
>>>>>>>>>> say that the vertices should be traversed anticlockwise as
>>>>>>>>>> seen from above. That is a positive direction of rotation
>>>>>>>>>> around the vertical axis, since longitude- latitude-upward
>>>>>>>>>> is a right-handed coordinate system. I suppose this is the
>>>>>>>>>> yaw rotation - but is that the opposite sign from yours?
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/18 12:51 PM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Roy and Nan I agree that if there are existing names
>>>>>>>>>>>> whose sign convention is undefined we can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> retrospectively define it. I think those ones ought to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> deprecated, though, in favour of new ones with signs
>>>>>>>>>>>> indicated. Best wishes Jonathan ----- Forwarded message
>>>>>>>>>>>> from Nan Galbraith<ngalbraith at whoi.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ngalbraith at whoi.edu> <mailto:ngalbraith at whoi.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ngalbraith at whoi.edu>-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 11:57:33 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Nan Galbraith<ngalbraith at whoi.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ngalbraith at whoi.edu> <mailto:ngalbraith at whoi.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ngalbraith at whoi.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?I second Roy's suggestion; existing names have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> undefined directionality, and new names have explicit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> directions. This seems like the only way to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward. If there's a difference of opinion on which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction should be in the new name, we can easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>> create a pair for each term. What would the explicit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> names be? Some of the terms in the thread below use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'right' and 'left' where 'port' and 'starboard' might be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more clear, since, as Roy points out, left and right can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be taken as 'looking forwards from the platform or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looking at the front of the platform.' I also agree that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these are the most intuitive way to represent these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> angles/motions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heave positive up pitch positive bow up yaw positive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starboard roll positive starboard side down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would the names be something like heave_up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pitch_bow_up, yaw_to_starboard, and roll_to_starboard?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We do need to differentiate these from the exiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> names. Regards - Nan Quoting "Lowry, Roy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> K."<rkl at bodc.ac.uk> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk> <mailto:rkl at bodc.ac.uk>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Jim, From my researches into existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oceanographic data sets (SeaDataCloud holdings plus EU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glider data projects), covering heave, pitch, roll and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yaw. I haven't discovered a single deviation from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conventions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heave positive up Pitch positive bow/nose up yaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive to starboard roll starboard side down I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet to find any data sets, other than those described
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Ken in these discussions, in my searches containing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surge or sway. The only ambiguity I have found in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wider domain of Google is where the concept of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'positive clockwise' has been used without specifying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether the observer is looking forwards from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform or looking at the front of the platform. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isn't helped by the multitude of bidirectional vectors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (arrows at each end) in illustrative diagrams. Might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our lives be made easier if we adopted a set of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conventions, state them explicitly in the Standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Names as Jonathan suggests leaving room in the unlikely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - in my view at least - event of Standard Names for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposite convention being required? Cheers, Roy. From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CF-metadata on behalf of Jim Biard<jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 31 August 2018 14:38 ?Jonathan, That's only part
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the issue. Here are the issues as I see them. *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no single sign convention being followed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing datasets "in the wild". * There is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long-standing convention for vertical coordinates using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the attribute positive rather than having pairs of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard names for height_positive_up,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> height_positive_down, etc. The suggested solution is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corollary, and the positive attribute could be used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of adding a new attribute named direction with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a suitable expansion of possible valid values. * In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to cover all bases, we'd need three versions for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each standard name (e.g. - platform_roll,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform_roll_clockwise, platform_roll_anticlockwise -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or similar names) * Having three different versions of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each standard name will lead to new possibilities for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting things wrong by picking the wrong version. *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Semantically, there is only one concept in each case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I am searching for roll variables and I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple names that mean roll, I must expand my search
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to include all variants. This is a small example, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are other examples of this problem that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely not trivial and defeat one of the goals for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using standard names - being able to find like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantities across datasets, particularly using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automated techniques rather than human eyes. Grace and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peace, Jim On 8/31/18 8:52 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all I haven't been following this discussion, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please excuse me if I've missed the point. I think you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are suggesting introducing a new attribute to indicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the positive sense of various new quantities for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform orientation - is that right? To do that would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not be consistent with other standard names, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (where relevant) all have the positive sense indicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the standard name itself. That's why there are many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pairs of standard names for upward/downward, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular. The reason for doing this is to make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible to name the quantity without indicating its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign convention, whereas a separate attribute can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> omitted, and probably sometimes will. It also opens new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibilities for getting things wrong, by putting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal values in it. Therefore I would argue for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same approach here, both because I think it's less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error-prone, and for consistency with other CF standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names. I'm sure the objection occurs to you that this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means more standard names. That's true, but it's only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twice as many, I believe, since each of the quantities
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has only two possible senses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded message from Kenneth Kehoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kkehoe at ou.edu> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 12:05:44 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Kenneth Kehoe<kkehoe at ou.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:kkehoe at ou.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should keep things simple as Ethan suggests
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below. But since the proposed attribute "direction" is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined as indicating the positive direction we don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to include the word positive. The terms would then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be: roll: "right_side_up" and "right_side_down" pitch:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "nose_up" and "nose_down" yaw: "nose_right" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "nose_left" surge: "forward" and "backward" sway:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "left" and "right" heave: "up" and "down" It would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice to be more explicit in the netCDF file and require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less on the standard_name definition so I would suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we use the original proposed attribute name of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive_direction" with the above allowed values. Or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if we don't want to add a new attribute we could use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the existing "positive" attribute and expand its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed use. I've proposed this in the past and it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided to not expand the definition. I think the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concern for not expanding positive was the requirement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of only using that attribute on coordinate variables.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the coordinate variable the only allowable values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are up and down. But for this use those values would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only be attached to a variable, not a coordinate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable. Since we are creating an attribute to define
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the positive direction I would like to add radial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition of "toward" and "away". But I think we can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplify this a bit further. If we define the point of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference that is moving in the standard name then we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need to put the point of reference in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive (or direction or positive_direction)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute. For example the pitch standard_name would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicate the location of reference of the nose. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would then reduce the list of possible options to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roll: "up" and "down" pitch: "up" and "down" yaw:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "right" and "left" surge: "forward" and "backward"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sway: "left" and "right" heave: "up" and "down" If we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could use the current attribute of "positive" that has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up and down already defined then we only need to to add
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "right", "left", "forward", "backward", "toward",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "away". Easy! Ken On 2018-8-29 13:54, Ethan Davis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: Hey Jim, How about removing one layer of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terminology by using your definitions for the allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values of "direction": roll: "positive_right_side_up"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and "positive_right_side_down". pitch:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive_nose_up" and "positive_nose_down". yaw:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive_nose_right" and "positive_nose_left". surge:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive_forward" and "positive_backward". sway:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive_left" and "positive_right". heave:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive_up" and "positive_down". Cheers, Ethan On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:02 PM Jim Biard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jbiard at cicsnc.org <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>>wrote: John, There are a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variety of conventions for defining roll, pitch, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yaw out there. This is why we are avoiding a specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. Others have searched existing datasets that are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using earlier versions of these standard names (or not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using standard names) and found that they don't all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the same convention. Ethan, We purposely aren't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answering that question directly because of the issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above. I believe that I have consistently followed the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> convention in which clockwise and anticlockwise are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotational directions around a unit vector facing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observer, where the X unit vector is in the nominally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward direction, the Z axis is in the local up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction, and the Y axis unit vector is "Z cross X",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which forms a right-handed coordinate system. The terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are meaningful and accurate using that convention, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the names could be "alpha" and "beta" or "dog" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "cat" as long as they are used correctly. This whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic is fraught with competing conventions, so we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempting to avoid declaring that only one of them is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid, with it's corresponding requirement that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone follow that one sign convention. In fact, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could reword things to remove naming the axes X, Y, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Z, and perhaps we should. I know of satellite platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that define their Y axis unit vector as pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward and the Z axis unit vector as pointing down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Grace and peace, Jim On 8/29/18 1:32 PM, John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Helly wrote: Perhaps one should refer to the discipline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of hydrostatics for help with this? This paper, pulled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a quick search, has a diagram referencing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms' frame of reference with respect to its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> center of gravity. Sorry if this comment is retrograd...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J. On 8/29/18 10:09, Ethan Davis wrote: Hi Jim, all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a bit confused by the "clockwise" and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "anticlockwise". You mention the orientation of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observer but not the location/orientation of the clock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My assumptions (not sure why) for the clock: for roll,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the observer (who is facing forward) would be facing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the clock; for pitch, the observer would look right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see the clock; and for yaw, the observer would look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down to see the clock. That works for your definitions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of pitch and yaw, but is backwards for roll. Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "clockwise" add, in some way, another degree of freedom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the definition? Does that degree of freedom need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be nailed down in the definitions? Or other terms used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead? I don't have any good suggestions other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive" and "negative". Cheers, Ethan On Wed, Aug
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 29, 2018 at 9:03 AM Jim Biard<jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jbiard at cicsnc.org> wrote: Hi. I've finally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten back to this topic! The definitions below call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out an attribute named "direction" that is used to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specify the direction for positive values of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different quantities. We may need to add a definition
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the attribute to the Conventions. The values and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meanings for the direction attribute are: roll:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "clockwise" for positive right side up and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "anticlockwise" for positive right side down. pitch:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "clockwise" for positive nose up and "anticlockwise"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for positive nose down. yaw: "clockwise" for positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nose right and "anticlockwise" for positive nose left.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surge: "positive" for positive forward and "negative"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for positive backward. sway: "positive" for positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> left and "negative" for positive right. heave:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive" for positive up and "negative" for positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down. And here are the standard name definitions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform_roll: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include, but are not limited to, satellites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations, and masts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roll is a rotation about an axis (the X axis) that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpendicular to the local vertical axis (the Z axis)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and is coplanar with the nominal forward motion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction of the platform. Roll is relative to the ?at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rest? rotation of the platform with respect to the X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> axis. The ?at rest? rotation of the platform may change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time. The direction for positive values of roll is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specified by an attribute named direction. The value of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the direction attribute is "clockwise" if positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values of roll represent the right side of the platform
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rising as viewed by an observer on top of the platform
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing forward. The value of the direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "anticlockwise" if positive values of roll represent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right side of the platform falling. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directionality of roll values is unspecified if no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction attribute is present. platform_pitch:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground stations, and masts. Pitch is a rotation about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an axis (the Y axis) that is perpendicular to both the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local vertical axis (the Z axis) and the nominal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward motion direction of the platform. Pitch is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative to the ?at rest? rotation of the platform with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect to the Y axis. The ?at rest? rotation of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform may change over time. The direction for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive values of pitch is specified by an attribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> named direction. The value of the direction attribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is "clockwise" if positive values of pitch represent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the platform rising as viewed by an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observer on top of the platform facing forward. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value of the direction attribute is "anticlockwise" if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive values of pitch represent the front of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform falling. The directionality of pitch values is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unspecified if no direction attribute is present.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform_yaw: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include, but are not limited to, satellites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations, and masts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yaw is a rotation about the local vertical axis (the Z
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> axis). Yaw is relative to the ?at rest? rotation of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform with respect to the Z axis. The ?at rest?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotation of the platform may change over time. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction for positive values of yaw is specified by an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute named direction. The value of the direction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute is "clockwise" if positive values of yaw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represent the front of the platform moving to the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward. The value of the direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "anticlockwise" if positive values of yaw represent the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front of the platform moving to the left. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directionality of yaw values is unspecified if no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction attribute is present. platform_surge:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground stations, and masts. Surge is a displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along an axis (the X axis) that is perpendicular to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local vertical axis (the Z axis) and is coplanar with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nominal forward motion direction of the platform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Surge is relative to the ?at rest? position of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform with respect to the X axis. The ?at rest?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> position of the platform may change over time. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction for positive values of surge is specified by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an attribute named direction. The value of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction attribute is "positive" if positive values of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surge represent the platform moving forward as viewed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The value of the direction attribute is "negative" if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive values of surge represent the platform moving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backward. The directionality of surge values is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unspecified if no direction attribute is present.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform_sway: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include, but are not limited to, satellites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations, and masts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sway is a displacement along an axis (the Y axis) that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is perpendicular to both the local vertical axis (the Z
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> axis) and the nominal forward motion direction of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform. Sway is relative to the ?at rest? position of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the platform with respect to the Y axis. The ?at rest?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> position of the platform may change over time. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction for positive values of sway is specified by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an attribute named direction. The value of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction attribute is "positive" if positive values of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sway represent the platform moving left as viewed by an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observer on top of the platform facing forward. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value of the direction attribute is "negative" if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive values of sway represent the platform moving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right. The directionality of sway values is unspecified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if no direction attribute is present. platform_heave:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground stations, and masts. Heave is a displacement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along the local vertical axis (the Z axis). Heave is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relative to the ?at rest? position of the platform with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect to the Z axis. The ?at rest? position of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform may change over time. The direction for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive values of heave is specified by an attribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> named direction. The value of the direction attribute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is "positive" if positive values of heave represent the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform moving up as viewed by an observer on top of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the platform facing forward. The value of the direction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute is "negative" if positive values of heave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represent the platform moving down. The directionality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of heave values is unspecified if no direction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute is present. platform_course: Platform is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure or vehicle that serves as a base for mounting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sensors. Platforms include, but are not limited to,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and masts. Course is the clockwise angle with respect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to North of the nominal forward motion direction of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform. platform_orientation: Platform is a structure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or vehicle that serves as a base for mounting sensors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platforms include, but are not limited to, satellites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations, and masts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orientation is the clockwise angle with respect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> North of the longitudinal (front-to-back) axis of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform, which may be different than the platform
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course (see platform_course). platform_roll_rate:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground stations, and masts. Roll rate is the rate of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rotation about an axis (the X axis) that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpendicular to the local vertical axis (the Z axis)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and is coplanar with the nominal forward motion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction of the platform. Roll rate might not include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes in the ?at rest? rotation of the platform,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which may change over time. The direction for positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values of roll rate is specified by an attribute named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction. The value of the direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "clockwise" if positive values of roll rate represent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right side of the platform rising as viewed by an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observer on top of the platform facing forward. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value of the direction attribute is "anticlockwise" if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive values of roll rate represent the right side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the platform falling. The directionality of roll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rate values is unspecified if no direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present. platform_pitch_rate: Platform is a structure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or vehicle that serves as a base for mounting sensors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platforms include, but are not limited to, satellites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations, and masts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pitch rate is the rate of rotation about an axis (the Y
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> axis) that is perpendicular to both the local vertical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> axis (the Z axis) and the nominal forward motion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction of the platform. Pitch rate might not include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes in the ?at rest? rotation of the platform,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which may change over time. The direction for positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values of pitch rate is specified by an attribute named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction. The value of the direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "clockwise" if positive values of pitch rate represent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the platform rising as viewed by an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observer on top of the platform facing forward. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value of the direction attribute is "anticlockwise" if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive values of pitch rate represent the front of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the platform falling. The directionality of pitch rate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values is unspecified if no direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present. platform_yaw_rate: Platform is a structure or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicle that serves as a base for mounting sensors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platforms include, but are not limited to, satellites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground stations, and masts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yaw rate is the rate of rotation about the local
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vertical axis (the Z axis). Yaw rate might not include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes in the ?at rest? rotation of the platform,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which may change over time. The direction for positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values of yaw rate is specified by an attribute named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction. The value of the direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "clockwise" if positive values of yaw rate represent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the front of the platform moving to the right as viewed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The value of the direction attribute is "anticlockwise"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if positive values of yaw rate represent the front of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the platform moving to the left. The directionality of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yaw rate values is unspecified if no direction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute is present. platform_surge_rate: Platform is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a structure or vehicle that serves as a base for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground stations, and masts. Surge rate is the rate of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displacement along an axis (the X axis) that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpendicular to the local vertical axis (the Z axis)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and is coplanar with the nominal forward motion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction of the platform. Surge rate might not include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes in the ?at rest? position of the platform,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which may change over time. The direction for positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values of surge rate is specified by an attribute named
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction. The value of the direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "positive" if positive values of surge rate represent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the platform moving forward as viewed by an observer on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top of the platform facing forward. The value of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction attribute is "negative" if positive values of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surge rate represent the platform moving backward. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directionality of surge rate values is unspecified if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no direction attribute is present. platform_sway_rate:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground stations, and masts. Sway rate is the rate of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displacement along an axis (the Y axis) that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perpendicular to both the local vertical axis (the Z
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> axis) and the nominal forward motion direction of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform. Sway rate might not include changes in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?at rest? position of the platform, which may change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time. The direction for positive values of sway
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rate is specified by an attribute named direction. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> value of the direction attribute is "positive" if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive values of sway rate represent the platform
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving left as viewed by an observer on top of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform facing forward. The value of the direction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute is "negative" if positive values of sway rate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> represent the platform moving right. The directionality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of sway rate values is unspecified if no direction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attribute is present. platform_heave_rate: Platform is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a structure or vehicle that serves as a base for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ground stations, and masts. Heave rate is the rate of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displacement along the local vertical axis (the Z
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> axis). Heave rate might not include changes in the ?at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rest? position of the platform, which may change over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. The direction for positive values of heave rate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is specified by an attribute named direction. The value
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the direction attribute is "positive" if positive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values of heave rate represent the platform moving up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward. The value of the direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "negative" if positive values of heave rate represent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the platform moving down. The directionality of heave
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rate values is unspecified if no direction attribute is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> present. Grace and peace, Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
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